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how to convert your dpfi harness to a mpfi harnessThis is a discussion on how to convert your dpfi harness to a mpfi harness within the Tips - Tricks - How to's - Guides - DIY's forums, part of the TunedTech's Features category; here is the instructions on how to convert your stock 88-91 civic dx dual point harness to a multipoint harness How To Install... Multi Point Fuel Injection Tools Pick Tools ... |
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| ttech Mod Join Date: May 2009 Location: salt lake city, utah My Ride: my 2 feet iTrader: (0) Posts Perday: 3.02
| Inside the car at the ECU... To depin the wires from the ECU plugs you need to pop out 2 white clips at the top and bottom of the plug, then from the front side you need to use a needle (or something thin but strong to pry the pin out of the plug, its a pain in the ass to do, all I can say is keep trying)... Your wiring will look something like this... ![]() ![]() ![]() *I redid my wiring so that I had a plug placed right after the firewall that would allow me to quickly disconnect the Cylinder Position Sensor and 2 of the Fuel Injector wires, good for if you ever have to remove the engine again. The engine harness can now stay right on the car, all you have to do is remove the 2 main plugs and the custom one I added now to remove the engine. There is a tab right under the interior/engine harness plug where another plug can fit. So I added one right there... ![]() I got the plug from the junkyard and just soldered onto the length of wire I cut off. Engine Wire Harness... For anyone wondering the answer is no, you cannot simply plug an Si engine harness into a DX car, it just doesn't match up. The easiest way is to modify the DX harness. Also when you swap harnesses you will have 1 white plug left over from a sensor that the DX had that MPFI do not, so don't be concerned. ![]() -If you are swapping the engine and the engine is out of the car then swap the DX harness over to your new engine (Si or ZC). If you are adding MPFI to a DPFI I would try and do this next step with the harness off of the engine. -Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) wires need to be extended, the TPS is a black sensor on the side of the throttle body, there are 3 wires going to it, extend those, always solder and use heatshrink. On the TPS plug on the DX harness you will see 3 wires going to it, yellow, red, and green, in that order (if you are looking at the top of the clip from left to right on the DX clip). Depin and switch the green and yellow wires around so now the order is green, red, yellow. This is because the DX TPS sensor works in the reverse of the MPFI one, so if you didn't do that your car would think it was at redline when it was suppose to be at idle. So if you have that problem you know you skipped this step. -Electronic Air Control Valve (EACV) wires need to be extended, the EACV is a rectangular box on the back of the intake manifold, it has 2 wires going to it, solder and heatshrink. Injectors and Resistor Box... For OBD-0 MPFI cars they require an Injector Resistor Box. The box transfers the high impedance current the DX has and turns it into the low impedance needed for OBD-0 injectors. Without this box your fuel injectors will get fried. You can use most any Honda Injector Resistor Box. I used to have a 1st Gen Integra one in my car, but its big and ugly and looks like a twinkie. At the junkyard I found a box from an Si so I took that and cut the harness off of it and painted it flat black. The one from the Si looks like a mini stereo amp, looks better and takes up less space than the Integra one. 4G Si Injector Resistor Box... ![]() 1G Integra Twinkie looking Injector Resistor Box... ![]() -The DX has 2 injector plugs on it, cut them off as close to the plug as you can. Connect all the yellow/black wires from those injector plug wires and solder them all together. From that combined connection solder on another wire and run it to the yellow/black wire on the Injector Resistor Box. -Connect the solid yellow wire from the DX injector to the #1 injector (I insert all the signal wires onto the left side of the injector plug, and all the resistor box wires on the right side, though I'm not sure it matters). -Connect the solid red wire from the DX injector and run it to the #3 injector (onto the left side of the plug, like I mentioned above). -Connect the A3 wire to the #2 injector (left side). -Connect the A7 wire to the #4 injector (left side). -Now run a wire from the right side of each injector plug and connect it to the red/black wires on the injector resistor box (the order doesn't matter from what I've seen). Cylinder Position Sensor... The CPS detects when cylinder #1 is at top dead center to help with proper fuel injector timing. ...For DOHC engines such as the ZC -Connect the C1 wire to the blue/green wire on the Cylinder Position Sensor (a sensor on the exhaust cam of the ZC). -Connect the C2 wire to the blue/yellow wire on the CPS. ...For SOHC engines such as the Si -Connect the C1 wire to the blue/green wire on the CPS (the sensor is inside the Distributor on a SOHC engine). For doing this I suggest swapping out to the proper Si distributor plug so it is all plug and play and looks clean. -Connect the C2 wire to the blue/yellow wire on the CPS. Also if your engine didn't come with a wire cover try and get one, they make the wiring look a lot cleaner and OEM looking... ![]() Notes When you do this take my word about doing it right the first time. Try and get all the OEM connectors you can get and solder at all connections and heatshrink. When I had my Integra Injector Resistor box with crimped on butt connectors I noticed my car was more sluggish when it was cold than after I installed my Si resistor box with soldered connections and OEM connectors. Also when you do the wiring for the injector plugs make sure you get a pin with a decent length of wiring coming off, then solder on to that, that will ensure you good connection. I originally tried crimping some wire into a pin but you can't solder it because the space in the plug is too small. I ended up having my car running really shitty on 3 cylinders for a long time until I went back and redid it. Another thing is try and use OEM plugs where possible. Get them off of junkyard cars if needed. Also remember, wire looms are man's best friend. Here is my wiring without looms... MESSY!!! ![]() With wire looms... decently clean... ![]() --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
__________________ --Yes I am aware my civic is 1.6L and your Mountain Dew is 2.0L --"Having sex should be like driving a Honda, slow, obscene, and loud enough for the neighbors to hear." --"RICE-Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements" ![]() RIP twinkie u will be forever missed | ||
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| ttech Mod Join Date: May 2009 Location: salt lake city, utah My Ride: my 2 feet iTrader: (0) Posts Perday: 3.02
| hope yall enjoy this thread the info was hard as hell to find
__________________ --Yes I am aware my civic is 1.6L and your Mountain Dew is 2.0L --"Having sex should be like driving a Honda, slow, obscene, and loud enough for the neighbors to hear." --"RICE-Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements" ![]() RIP twinkie u will be forever missed | ||
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| ttech Mod Join Date: May 2009 Location: salt lake city, utah My Ride: my 2 feet iTrader: (0) Posts Perday: 3.02
| it took me forever to find ive been looking for allmost a week and finally found this thanks to friends on club civic it took me forever to post lol but thanks i figured that if i need to know how i might as well post this up so that others can find the info that they need
__________________ --Yes I am aware my civic is 1.6L and your Mountain Dew is 2.0L --"Having sex should be like driving a Honda, slow, obscene, and loud enough for the neighbors to hear." --"RICE-Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements" ![]() RIP twinkie u will be forever missed | ||
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| ttech Mod Join Date: May 2009 Location: salt lake city, utah My Ride: my 2 feet iTrader: (0) Posts Perday: 3.02
| u mean write up lol right and thanks
__________________ --Yes I am aware my civic is 1.6L and your Mountain Dew is 2.0L --"Having sex should be like driving a Honda, slow, obscene, and loud enough for the neighbors to hear." --"RICE-Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements" ![]() RIP twinkie u will be forever missed | ||
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| ttech Mod Join Date: May 2009 Location: salt lake city, utah My Ride: my 2 feet iTrader: (0) Posts Perday: 3.02
| i know right lol
__________________ --Yes I am aware my civic is 1.6L and your Mountain Dew is 2.0L --"Having sex should be like driving a Honda, slow, obscene, and loud enough for the neighbors to hear." --"RICE-Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements" ![]() RIP twinkie u will be forever missed | ||
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| ttech Mod Join Date: May 2009 Location: salt lake city, utah My Ride: my 2 feet iTrader: (0) Posts Perday: 3.02
| i would do a write up on step by step instructions on how to do a clutch in a d15b2 with ac and a cable trans but im to busy trying to figure it out myself the damn engine only has one mount and the trans has 3 so when i finally get the trans off the motor the motor is just going to hang there grrr this is pissing me off real bad
__________________ --Yes I am aware my civic is 1.6L and your Mountain Dew is 2.0L --"Having sex should be like driving a Honda, slow, obscene, and loud enough for the neighbors to hear." --"RICE-Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements" ![]() RIP twinkie u will be forever missed | ||
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| ttech Mod Join Date: May 2009 Location: salt lake city, utah My Ride: my 2 feet iTrader: (0) Posts Perday: 3.02
| thanks even though i stole it lol
__________________ --Yes I am aware my civic is 1.6L and your Mountain Dew is 2.0L --"Having sex should be like driving a Honda, slow, obscene, and loud enough for the neighbors to hear." --"RICE-Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements" ![]() RIP twinkie u will be forever missed | ||
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