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Old 01-19-2011, 02:58 PM   #1
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Default Jetta alarm system problem :D


Been working on my jetta for the past week, put a new trunk on it, and had to replace the drivers side key tumbler since my key broke off into it!

But even before i started working on it, we had a problem where the alarm would go off all the time. Problem is that the alarm is always armed, no matter if locked or unlocked.

The alarm used to be able to turn off if i leave a key in the ignition then lock/unlock the door again from the inside (window down, ghetto!).

But now the alarm just wont disarm! I know i can disable it by cutting a couple wires to the alarm system and putting them together, but i would really like to keep my alarm!

Im looking online at alarm systems, but i dont know if any of them are compatible with my car. I also dont want to waste money on a new alarm system if it might be the doors or trunk that is causing the problem.

Ill post a vid soon, but if anyone has any information on this please help!

Greatly appreciated!

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Been working on my jetta for the past week, put a new trunk on it, and had to replace the drivers side key tumbler since my key broke off into it!

But even before i started working on it, we had a problem where the alarm would go off all the time. Problem is that the alarm is always armed, no matter if locked or unlocked.

The alarm used to be able to turn off if i leave a key in the ignition then lock/unlock the door again from the inside (window down, ghetto!).

But now the alarm just wont disarm! I know i can disable it by cutting a couple wires to the alarm system and putting them together, but i would really like to keep my alarm!

Im looking online at alarm systems, but i dont know if any of them are compatible with my car. I also dont want to waste money on a new alarm system if it might be the doors or trunk that is causing the problem.

Ill post a vid soon, but if anyone has any information on this please help!

Greatly appreciated!
Need to know model of car as different models came out with different systems,is this still a manufacturer fitment if not it will be difficult to help,just give me a name if it was a after fitment.
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:44 PM   #3
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Its a 1996 2.0l Vw jetta. I am actually not familiar with the "mk3/4" terms mean. think its an mk3 since its 1996? and yes factory alarm system. Although it has this "button" you got to hit to start the engine.

like i cant start the engine by turning the key, but i have to turn it till the lights and all come on and then hit the button for the starter to crank the engine.

Its kinda scary cause its a manual and one time i fucking left it in gear and hit that button.... scary shit i tell ya!

Its got rebuilt heads though =]

Edit: All this kinda bothers me as its not like its built into the dash, when i got the car the tires were bald and the transmission mount was being held on by a f** nylon string!
I jacked up the car and put it on stands, then put a stand under the engine to keep it in the same place (the engine was like... if you unbolt the engine and it moves position, it will be extremely hard to get the new mount on cause the bracket used to hold the engine from the transmission mount and transfer the weight to the frame cause the weight of the engine is just falling toward the ground.)

Like i said, was a pain in the ass!



But i got it done in a night, even though i was under the car when it was dark outside (proll 1-2 hour job since we had to drive around and find one of those new transmission mounts... only one auto parts store had 1 of them in my area. we went to about 8 of them...)

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Its a 1996 2.0l Vw jetta. I am actually not familiar with the "mk3/4" terms mean. think its an mk3 since its 1996? and yes factory alarm system. Although it has this "button" you got to hit to start the engine.

like i cant start the engine by turning the key, but i have to turn it till the lights and all come on and then hit the button for the starter to crank the engine.

Its kinda scary cause its a manual and one time i fucking left it in gear and hit that button.... scary shit i tell ya!

Its got rebuilt heads though =]

Edit: All this kinda bothers me as its not like its built into the dash, when i got the car the tires were bald and the transmission mount was being held on by a f** nylon string!
I jacked up the car and put it on stands, then put a stand under the engine to keep it in the same place (the engine was like... if you unbolt the engine and it moves position, it will be extremely hard to get the new mount on cause the bracket used to hold the engine from the transmission mount and transfer the weight to the frame cause the weight of the engine is just falling toward the ground.)

Like i said, was a pain in the ass!



But i got it done in a night, even though i was under the car when it was dark outside (proll 1-2 hour job since we had to drive around and find one of those new transmission mounts... only one auto parts store had 1 of them in my area. we went to about 8 of them...)
Hi Sizzy
Let starts at you no1 problem the reason your car have a press button to start is the people that have previously worked on this car mast have been car scrapers as they didn't know what they were doing.They were supposed to replace the ign contact.To do that you need to remove the steering wheel and then you need a special puller to remove the sleeve that stabilize the ign switch.That contact can influence your alarm system as it must send a signal for alarm telling it you starts the car. First you have to replace the ign contact and remove all wiring and push button.So the car can start with the key again. About the alarm do you have two remotes still, You need a gadget called a loop test to program that remotes and alarm, but it is important that the ign is working properly.Where are you to say how you must get the alarm progammed.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:03 AM   #5
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Let starts at you no1 problem the reason your car have a press button to start is the people that have previously worked on this car mast have been car scrapers as they didn't know what they were doing.They were supposed to replace the ign contact.To do that you need to remove the steering wheel and then you need a special puller to remove the sleeve that stabilize the ign switch.That contact can influence your alarm system as it must send a signal for alarm telling it you starts the car. First you have to replace the ign contact and remove all wiring and push button.So the car can start with the key again. About the alarm do you have two remotes still, You need a gadget called a loop test to program that remotes and alarm, but it is important that the ign is working properly.Where are you to say how you must get the alarm progammed.
Where should i purchase the ign contact?

And as far as the alarm goes, i didnt get any remotes, and im not sure if the system came with any remotes. The drivers side door has a light in the lock and i beleive thats the only way the alarm can be turned off as when i lock the car thats when the alarm arms itself. I have to unplug the battery and plug it back in with the door open so the alarm doesnt go off and i can start it.

Im gona call the dealership and see if they can find me one, and if not ill start searching ebay for that ign contact.

Was this model supposed to have power locks? Cause there are a few fuses missing out of the fuse box (and a few wires that are cut) and the power locks dont work, as well as interior lights.
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Where should i purchase the ign contact?

And as far as the alarm goes, i didnt get any remotes, and im not sure if the system came with any remotes. The drivers side door has a light in the lock and i beleive thats the only way the alarm can be turned off as when i lock the car thats when the alarm arms itself. I have to unplug the battery and plug it back in with the door open so the alarm doesnt go off and i can start it.

Im gona call the dealership and see if they can find me one, and if not ill start searching ebay for that ign contact.

Was this model supposed to have power locks? Cause there are a few fuses missing out of the fuse box (and a few wires that are cut) and the power locks dont work, as well as interior lights.
That model was equipped with vacuum locking system, so my advice will be to repair the ign contact and get a aftermarket alarm system fitted.As the vacuum pump for the central locking that is located in the boot is very expensive if you still can get it.Don't replace the contact with a pirate one as they are of inferior quality and don't last long.
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That model was equipped with vacuum locking system, so my advice will be to repair the ign contact and get a aftermarket alarm system fitted.As the vacuum pump for the central locking that is located in the boot is very expensive if you still can get it.Don't replace the contact with a pirate one as they are of inferior quality and don't last long.
Woah woah, vaccum locking system? Is that what the hoses are in the trunk? I couldnt get them connected together after i got a new trunk. Might that have something to do with the alarm system?

Well, even when they were connected with the old trunk, the locks still didnt work.


Im trying to re frame from having to take her to a shop and spend loads getting all this fixed if i can do it myself. Ill take some pictures as soon as the rain dies down so you can get a better look at what im talking about as its hard to explain in text
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Woah woah, vaccum locking system? Is that what the hoses are in the trunk? I couldnt get them connected together after i got a new trunk. Might that have something to do with the alarm system?

Well, even when they were connected with the old trunk, the locks still didnt work.


Im trying to re frame from having to take her to a shop and spend loads getting all this fixed if i can do it myself. Ill take some pictures as soon as the rain dies down so you can get a better look at what im talking about as its hard to explain in text
Fine but its not really difficult if you want to do it on your own,start with the ign contact if you need help just ask
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Fine but its not really difficult if you want to do it on your own,start with the ign contact if you need help just ask
I havent gotten into the vehicle today cause of the crappy weather. But tomorrow ill try to take some pictures of everything so you can get a better view, cause its pretty hard to explain it in text.
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Fine foto's can help but I know those cars like the palm of my hand
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Well im glad i found you then!
I got into the car today to install the new headlights i ordered with HID kit, but it was still too rainy to get anything done.

And what do ya know, i unlocked the drivers side door and the alarm went off when i opened the door. Had to disconnect the battery.

I was looking around the car and couldnt pinpoint where the ign contact was. Im an absolute noob when it comes to the wiring of the car.
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I was looking around on the internet and found a little info about the ign switch. After work tomorrow i will take off the steering wheel and see if i can get it out (heard its kinda difficult)

Ill order a new one and replace that to see if that makes any changes. If not atleast im restoring some parts that might go bad later on. And after i trouble shoot the IGN switch ill post results and move on to the next probable cause.
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I was looking around on the internet and found a little info about the ign switch. After work tomorrow i will take off the steering wheel and see if i can get it out (heard its kinda difficult)

Ill order a new one and replace that to see if that makes any changes. If not atleast im restoring some parts that might go bad later on. And after i trouble shoot the IGN switch ill post results and move on to the next probable cause.
Its not difficult to remove any steering wheel. Follow this steps open up the center cover on the steering wheel so you can get to the nut that is holding it.It is normally quite tight use a socket and extension with a power-bar to loosen it, don't take it completely of leave it still on a few threads.Now you take your watch of and make two fists and hit the steering all around a way from you, then take the steering wheel with both hands and wiggle it gently towards you, don't use to much power and you will feel it slipping of the splines.If you don't get if right the first time repeat the proses.Never use a hammer or a puller on a V/W it is nit necessary.A know you a novice so do it yourself till you get it right.Then you can teach others, as every body think you need a puller to remove a steering wheel.the nut on the shaft will prevent the wheel to hid you in the face if you apply to much power,as you are still a novice. The trick is hid it hard and wiggle it gently.
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Its not difficult to remove any steering wheel. Follow this steps open up the center cover on the steering wheel so you can get to the nut that is holding it.It is normally quite tight use a socket and extension with a power-bar to loosen it, don't take it completely of leave it still on a few threads.Now you take your watch of and make two fists and hit the steering all around a way from you, then take the steering wheel with both hands and wiggle it gently towards you, don't use to much power and you will feel it slipping of the splines.If you don't get if right the first time repeat the proses.Never use a hammer or a puller on a V/W it is nit necessary.A know you a novice so do it yourself till you get it right.Then you can teach others, as every body think you need a puller to remove a steering wheel.the nut on the shaft will prevent the wheel to hid you in the face if you apply to much power,as you are still a novice. The trick is hid it hard and wiggle it gently.
Ok, gona get my neighbor to help me push it in the garage.

Its like 1:41 am here, so ill be back in a minute haha
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I got paid today, so its time to work on the jetta again! Made a short video and uploading to youtube at the moment. Should be done in a few hours since its 720p and my internet blows...


I adressed the main problem of the alarm being armed whether i unlock the car or lock it, and showed how i have to disconnect the battery and reconnect it in order to start the car. Also showed the little button the previous owners installed to start the car (including how i cant turn the key to start the car) and the wires that are disconnected plus fuses missing.


ill post it up here, and hopefully i can find a fix to this alarm, and the other electrical problems.

Im thinking a need a new wiring harness cause all my gauges are screwed up.
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